Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

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Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

I am a student of HTML & XHTML. I want to build my own www site and
was thinking of using the temples recommended in this site.
http://www.2createawebsite.com/

What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to
register your domain name and a certain company to host your web
site.
I have also read the FAQ's for alt.html, I find them very useful
and the newsgroup as well by just reading it daily.
I have also subscribed to the free course offered by the Host for
about.com. I would also appreciate any comments on this free
course.
If you could address some of these questions, it would be
appreciated. Thank you in advance

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

Mary Jane Middleton wrote:

Please do not post HTML messages to text-only newsgroups. Plain text
only.

> Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

Which www?

> I am a student of HTML & XHTML. I want to build my own www site and
> was thinking of using the temples recommended in this site.
> http://www.2createawebsite.com/

I might not. Their own page:

"Failed validation, 166 Errors"

...and it uses a Traditional doctype. New pages should be Strict. Use:

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

Don't use XHTML.

> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to register
> your domain name and a certain company to host your web site.

This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same company
you use for hosting the site.

You might want to check out:
http://htmldog.com/

> I have also read the FAQ's for alt.html, I find them very useful and
> the newsgroup as well by just reading it daily. I have also
> subscribed to the free course offered by the Host for about.com. I
> would also appreciate any comments on this free course.

Sorry, I don't have time to take the course...

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of thiswww?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>
> ..and it uses a Traditional doctype. New pages should be Strict. Use:

You've pointed out the problem with Transitional so often it's become
traditional. ;-)



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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

John Hosking wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> ..and it uses a Traditional doctype. New pages should be Strict. Use:
>
> You've pointed out the problem with Transitional so often it's become
> traditional. ;-)

I should write a web page and just provide a link, eh!

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote in message
news:AmDzi.457927$p47.142005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att. net...

>
> Don't use XHTML.
>

What's up with XHTML?

+mrcakey

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:

> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
>
>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to register
>> your domain name and a certain company to host your web site.
>
> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same company
> you use for hosting the site.

That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind it?

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

mrcakey wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Don't use XHTML.
>
> What's up with XHTML?

Scour these groups for the many times it has been discussed.

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

Sherm Pendley wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:
>> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
>>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to
>>> register your domain name and a certain company to host your web
>>> site.
>>
>> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same
>> company you use for hosting the site.
>
> That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind
> it?

Been mentioned in these groups quite often. If you want to move hosting,
you have to update your nameservers. They may not let you. They may not
release the name and allow you to re-register elsewhere...

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

"Sherm Pendley" wrote in message
news:m2ps1cyj3r.fsf@dot-app.org...
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:
>
>> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
>>
>>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to register
>>> your domain name and a certain company to host your web site.
>>
>> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same company
>> you use for hosting the site.
>
> That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind it?
>
> sherm--
>
> --
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You have not heard of PIPEX in theUK.
Never register you domain name with the same company you use for hosting the
site.
Why? If you want to move your site and the hosting company act as
registrars they can make life difficult.

Regards
John

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of thiswww?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Sherm Pendley wrote:
>
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:
>>> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
>>>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to
>>>> register your domain name and a certain company to host your web
>>>> site.
>>> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same
>>> company you use for hosting the site.
>> That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind
>> it?
>
> Been mentioned in these groups quite often. If you want to move hosting,
> you have to update your nameservers. They may not let you. They may not
> release the name and allow you to re-register elsewhere...
>

Ouch. How is godaddy in this regard? I don't mind using their servers
since they are giving good service ATM (for most of my needs). But still
curious.

Best,
A

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

John Hosking wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>>
>> ..and it uses a Traditional doctype. New pages should be Strict. Use:
>
> You've pointed out the problem with Transitional so often it's become
> traditional. ;-)

But then...but...so if...OW! MY HEAD HURTS!


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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

mrcakey wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote in message
> news:AmDzi.457927$p47.142005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att. net...
>
>>
>> Don't use XHTML.
>
> What's up with XHTML?

Time.

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of thiswww?

John Hosking wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>>
>> ..and it uses a Traditional doctype. New pages should be Strict. Use:
>
> You've pointed out the problem with Transitional so often it's become
> traditional. ;-)
lol
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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

Animesh K wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Sherm Pendley wrote:
>>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:
>>>> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
>>>>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to
>>>>> register your domain name and a certain company to host your web
>>>>> site.
>>>> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same
>>>> company you use for hosting the site.
>>> That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind
>>> it?
>>
>> Been mentioned in these groups quite often. If you want to move
>> hosting, you have to update your nameservers. They may not let you.
>> They may not release the name and allow you to re-register
>> elsewhere...
>
> Ouch. How is godaddy in this regard? I don't mind using their servers
> since they are giving good service ATM (for most of my needs). But
> still curious.

Godaddy is primarily a registrar, but also does web hosting. I would
think they would be alright, as they are such a big name. I would *not*
attempt it with a small reseller.

I have a couple domains registered at Godaddy, but they are both hosted
elsewhere.

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of thiswww?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Animesh K wrote:
>

>
> Godaddy is primarily a registrar, but also does web hosting. I would
> think they would be alright, as they are such a big name. I would *not*
> attempt it with a small reseller.
>
> I have a couple domains registered at Godaddy, but they are both hosted
> elsewhere.
>


Yes primarily they are registrars and they are pretty good at
domain-name related services. Actually, of late, I have found their
PHP/SQL support to be pretty good for my needs (in economy hosting of
$3.5 per month). I am not doing anything fancy though.

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

In article
,
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:

> Sherm Pendley wrote:
>
> > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" writes:
> >> Mary Jane Middleton wrote:
> >>> What do you think? She is saying to use a certain company to
> >>> register your domain name and a certain company to host your web
> >>> site.
> >>
> >> This is correct. Never register you domain name with the same
> >> company you use for hosting the site.
> >
> > That's the first time I've heard that. What's the rationale behind
> > it?
>
> Been mentioned in these groups quite often. If you want to move hosting,
> you have to update your nameservers. They may not let you. They may not
> release the name and allow you to re-register elsewhere...

....because they are horrid, mean, selfish, grasping, unfair,
borderline criminal?

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

dorayme wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Been mentioned in these groups quite often. If you want to move
>> hosting, you have to update your nameservers. They may not let you.
>> They may not release the name and allow you to re-register
>> elsewhere...
>
> ...because they are horrid, mean, selfish, grasping, unfair,
> borderline criminal?

What do small businesses do quite often? Riiiight, they go *outta*
business.

If there is nobody left to issue an unlock to your intended new
registrar, what happens to your name? You can't change hosting servers,
you can't renew it...

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of thiswww?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

> If there is nobody left to issue an unlock to your intended new
> registrar, what happens to your name? You can't change hosting servers,
> you can't renew it...

But you can contact their providers. I recently had problems with a
smaller registrar so contacted the next people up, who happened to be
Melbourne IT a *much* larger company. They told me to fax them some
details showing who I was if I didn't get any luck with the little
people and they'd sort it all out for me.

Failing that, you can also contact the people right at the top, ie. the
domain name authority for whatever the TLD is.

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

"mrcakey" wrote:

>"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote in message
>news:AmDzi.457927$p47.142005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att .net...
>
>>
>> Don't use XHTML.
>>
>
>What's up with XHTML?
The main arguments against it are at
.
An amusing counter-argument to Hickson's is here
.
The main argument in favour of XHTML is that the World Wide Web
Consortium, the source for HTML scripture, uses it.
.

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

"David Segall" wrote in message
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> "mrcakey" wrote:
>
>>"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote in message
>>news:AmDzi.457927$p47.142005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.at t.net...
>>
>>>
>>> Don't use XHTML.
>>>
>>
>>What's up with XHTML?
> The main arguments against it are at
> .
> An amusing counter-argument to Hickson's is here
> .
> The main argument in favour of XHTML is that the World Wide Web
> Consortium, the source for HTML scripture, uses it.
> .

Thanks for that.

Am I doing something wrong then? I changed the content-type value for the
index page to xml on the site I'm building for my friend and it still works
fine as far as I can see. Even in IE6.

http://www.ladolcevita.org.uk/

+mrcakey

Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Animesh K
writing in news:fanef9$1ms2$2@agate.berkeley.edu:

> Ouch. How is godaddy in this regard? I don't mind using their servers
> since they are giving good service ATM (for most of my needs). But still
> curious.
>
>

Registering with GoDaddy is fine - Web hosting has been a pain a few times,
so I wouldn't recommend them for that.

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Re: Learning HTML: building a Web Site: What do you think of this www?

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:28:50 +0100, "mrcakey"
wrote:

>Am I doing something wrong then? I changed the content-type value for the
>index page to xml on the site I'm building for my friend
>
>http://www.ladolcevita.org.uk/

You only changed the embedded , which is over-ridden by the HTTP
content-type header:

HTTP/1.x 200 OK
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:33:38 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33
Last-Modified: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:22:02 GMT
Etag: "1ca400d-f03-46cfe6aa"
Content-Length: 3843
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html
X-Pad: avoid browser bug

So you're still using text/html overall


> it still works fine as far as I can see. Even in IE6.

Change the header properly and it'll break in IE


Also, if you have to embed a comment like "Simon, start editing here and
remember to use tags", then well-formed XML just isn't going to last 5
minutes. Stick with HTML, you'll get better error recovery.